May 30, 2008

Geçtiğimiz hafta, bir web girişimcisinin, Türkiye’de iş yaparken dikkat etmesi gereken bazı önemli konuları içeren Botego deneyimlerimi şu yazıda paylaştım. Bu konuların en başında, size ortaklık teklifiyle gelen ve şirket kurma çalışmalarına başladığınız bir yatırımcıya, ne kadar güvenirseniz güvenin en azından yazılı bir protokol imzalatmak gereği vardı. Deneyimlerime göre böyle bir protokol imzalanmadığı zaman, yatırımcı kişi proje sahibini projenin dışına itebiliyor ve katkısını yok saymaya çalışabiliyordu.

Bu yazının üzerine Ekim Nazım Kaya, yazımda kendisine hakaret ve iftira ettiğimi, bu nedenle yasal yollara başvuracağını duyurmuştu. Dava açmak herkesin hakkıdır ama bir talebim olmayan ve sadece başımdan geçenlerden çıkarttığım dersleri paylaşmak için yazdığım yazıya gelen bu temelsiz tepkiyi bir savunma stratejisi olarak görüyorum. Webrazzi de yürütülen tartışmada (tartışmaya kapatıldı) kendilerine gelen eleştrilerin önü “bence yorum yaparken 2 kere düşünün çünkü yargıya intikal etmek üzere olan bir konuda yorum belirtiyorsunuz..” diyerek kesilmiş. Ekim kendi twitter hesabında ve friendfeed‘de duyuru yaparak (edit: Ekim twitter ve friendfeed hesaplarını private hale getirmiş ve blogundan webrazzi makalesini silmiş), Botego olarak yapacakları yasal başvurunun wordpress’i kapattıracağı endişesini dile getirmiş. Olayın yasal mercilere taşınacağı duyurulmuş ama Botego’nun bana tepki verme süreci burada bitmemiş. Keşke bitseydi diyorum çünkü işler genel mantık sınırlarından çıkmaya ve kişisel saldırılarla düşmanlık noktasına getirilmeye başlandı. Beni hakaret ve iftira etmekle suçlayan şirket, akıl almaz çıkışlarla kendisini garip bir duruma soktu.
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Posted by denizoktar
May 28, 2008
Hi,
Ekim Nazim Kaya, the old partner of mine, claimed that he will be taking legal actions about this blog because of the Botego post I’ve added which was explaining the other side of a success story. I’ll keep this page updated about what will be happening about the issue.
By the way, I have added some more information on the Botego Post so that I can be able to explain what had happened. I’ve added the story of : RobotDostum, which was the first steps of Botego project. I’ve also added some documents I’ve prepared in those early steps. Here is a sneak peak:
“My first action plan had those steps:
- Create marketing bots for firms – First income : invest on technology [Botego : Tefal Bot]
- Create a female bot that will grab the attention of public : Media & Press covarage and conversation database [Botego: Merve Bot]
- Basic FAQ bots to enter CRM field [Botego: Standart service bot]
- Build bots (some backed-up with real operators) to convert Call Center services online (typecenter): A good built chat-bot can cut down up to %25 traffic in Call-Center’s. [Botego: Turk Telekom - Yemek sepeti Bot]
- Build/Use bots for marketing research, little campaings and HR projects.[Botego: ?]
- Use bots as a salesman/marketing agent in online stores. For instance: a Nokia recommender salesmen bot as a banner in hepsiburada.com. [Botego: not yet]
- Using Turkish Language Processing techniques, build systems for fast and efficient retrieval of information to be used by Call-Center operators [Botego : Avea and TEB bot]
- Build some search engine optimizer with a Natural Language backhand. For instance: Ask to a bot, let google answer. [Botego: not yet]
As you will see, these steps are correlated with the steps Botego is trying to take. Coincidence? “
Here is the old post if you are interested in.
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May 25, 2008
Facebook the Social Data Queen vs. Google the Personal Data King
“fight in the recommendation field”

Many people, including me predict that the next step of web technology will be about personalization. It will be about web, understanding and providing each users needs. This personalization will be done by recommendations as a result of Semantic web. When the recent issues between Google’s Friend Connect service and Facebook are considered, it might be seen that the value of social and personal data, which are essential for personalization/recommendation engines, are increasing. In this post, I am going to discuss recent issues of Social Data War and what do companies aim to do with this data. I am also going to talk a little about a project of mine: Iletken which is much related to the issue. The last issue I am going to discuss will be the difference between Social and Personal data, which is hard to distinguish and rarely discussed. This discussion between the two data types can hold light to the real reason of the war between two data holders: Facebook the Social Data Queen, and Google the Personal Data King
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Posted by denizoktar
May 25, 2008
In this post, I am going to give a brief summary of how did one of my projects: Botego turned into a real commercial product and the reasons why I am not a part of it any more. The best lesson to be learned from the story below might be understanding how important it is to sign legal papers.
Edit: Ekim Nazim Kaya, old partner of mine stated that he will be taking legal actions against this blog. He stated that he will go to court and ask wordpress.com to shut this blog down. Even though I am nearly sure his application will not get any result because of the facts I presented in this article and also because I am not demanding anything, I’ll keep this post updated about what is going on in this issue. I also use my personal website: www.denizoktar.net
Edit2: Things are getting serious. People from botego started to insult me. Check it. ( TURKCE )
Edit: Added some information about the early steps of the project. They will be in this colour.
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